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    the main thing with kokanee is we don't want to give them any leverage, that is why every thing from the simple wedding rings to the apex is rigged in a way they can shake the parts away with only the hooks staying in the mouth with nothing to twist against to help dislodge the hooks. and most of us use the dbl. hook setup, one for the mouth and the other usually catches the gill plate. if you tie to the hook you would need a longer single hook which offers more leverage and a better chance the fish will use it to pry the hook out of it's mouth. just my thoughts, others may very. dfly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physion View Post
    Ok, I'll admit to a lack of understanding. What is the advantage of tying these on a tube as opposed to tying them directly on the hook as most flies are tied? Can someone enlighten me? I found some coffee stirrers and am tying some, but I don't see why they'll be better than just tying to a hook.
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    Some of us anglers that like to flyfish, especially when chasing steelhead, have found that tying larger patterns (google steelhead intruders) on tubes sliding on the line tied to an octopus hook, is easier than using long shanked hooks, and when the fish hits the fly and hooks it's self, the fly slides on the line and lasts longer because it's less likely to be chewed up by the fish.
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    After making a few, I certainly agree they are easier to tie on a larger tube. Now if they will catch fish as well as the ones I've been using, I'll be a happy camper. I get to try them out on Wednesday and Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physion View Post
    Ok, I'll admit to a lack of understanding. What is the advantage of tying these on a tube as opposed to tying them directly on the hook as most flies are tied? Can someone enlighten me? I found some coffee stirrers and am tying some, but I don't see why they'll be better than just tying to a hook.
    The following is not my own writing I'm just paraphrasing from another source but

    "Tube flies have been used in Europe for some years now mainly for Steelhead and salmon fishing and have become quite popular in Alaska, Washinton state, Oregon, and BC...many use them as bucktails for salmon in the saltchuck.

    Some advantages are the tube and attached fly body will slide up the line away from the hook when bitten, this means the body of the fly will last longer.

    You also have more control over fly weight as you can purchase tubes made from aluminum, stainless steel and copper which gives you the option to have same fly bodies with different weights.....The tubes also come in multiple colors

    There are now tubes available called bottle tubes that allow you to weight the flies at just the hook bend end......You'll find the tubes at various good fly shops throughout your area they are not new and in fact have been available for some years...Remember Google and Youtube are your friends with availability and instructional videos on how to tie Tube flys.

    I understand the posting of direct links is verboten here so I wont direct you to the `Canadian tube fly`site (Mods please accept apologies and delete if not allowable)

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    Been tying tube flies for some time now. The advantages are exactly as described. Ball point pen tubes, coffee straws, QTips (break off the cotton ) all work. Spend a little extra for tubes made specifically for flies and you can get all sorts of sparkly colors. As far as materials, marabou has worked best for me - especially wrapped (palmered for you fly tyers) but Flashabou and zonker styles are the ticket some days. I have been tying up some articulated smaller versions of Intruder flies (used for salmon) on streamer hooks with a trailer hook. We'll see how they work. I must have a hundred flies laying around. Gets very addictive. So many materials, so many colors. Also tied some tinsel skirts on tubes to put inside hoochies - easy way to add some more flash or glow depending. I also have tied up some larger trolling flies they use in the Great Lakes for lakers to try out. Don't think the big lakers will chase them down but should pick up the pups and larger bows.

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    Attachment 7463Attachment 7464 Some examples of what I have tied. The cones help keep the marabou fluffed. Don't add much weight but you can cast them with a fly rod.

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    Stan,
    Nice work! Those look multi-species fishy!!!
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    OK, what program do we need to install in order to see the pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRM View Post
    OK, what program do we need to install in order to see the pictures.
    I think some folks have trouble seeing that form of photo attachment. I hosted them and posted below:



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    Went with my 3 favorite Koke colors and think I might have a fish catcher with this one.

    Pink, purple & chartreuse:

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    Wow...nice work, both you guys.

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    Hey, those are all in good fun, and I'll bet that they will catch with the best of them! Thanks for sharing.

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    WD 40 spray tubes
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    Quote Originally Posted by clawman View Post
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    clawman that is what I have been using. the pen tubes are .115 the new wd- 40 straws are .110 and the old ones are .085 quit a bit smaller than the pens

    this is how I started out, first the fixens

    now I scored on the straws I was talking to my chemical supplier from mount hood chemical about tying tube flies and he said hold on and walked out to his car and came back with a whole pack of the old style straws that they use in the mfg of there products.
    now the first thing I did was flair the end so I don't have to worry about the skirt slipping off

    now I gathered up the pink and some bling and tied it to the tube using black Kevlar thread

    the wrapped and finished with some half hitches

    then cut off the excess tube

    now ready for the hooks I like the sickle hooks, I use a red #2 forward and a black #4 for the stinger

    now push the leader through and almost ready to fish

    because of picture limits I didn't show I used black finger nail polish and paint the thread to help bond the threads and keep it from unraveling now you can add a bead and what ever spinner you want if you want to go that way. hope this helps they are pretty fast to make and you can do it in the boat as you are fishing. dfly

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    Shawn,
    Unlike other fish that hit lures like an inhale, the Kokes seem to swipe at these. You will get a lot of hits but not all the hooks ups you should the way the hooks are buried in the fly. Try running the internal part of your tube long so that the hooks extend.
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    thanx Dave, it does look short I usually use beads when setting up hoochies but I like the flair so instead of making the tube long or adding beads I am going to add a short section of tube instead

    that way I still have the flex so no leverage and it puts it further back

    I will try these out at Greenpeter this week to see how they work. dfly

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    I love that fluorescent pink. Where did you pick that up at?
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    Dave, I got it at fishermans marine supply it wasn't in with the flash and decals but in with the fly tying supplies it is called FLUORO FIBRE part # hot pink ff16 it comes in a lot of hot colors and is finer than the regular flash. here's some examples. http://shop.charliesflybox.com/Fluor...uoro-Fiber.htm . dfly

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    Instead of the tube you may want to use rubber bobber stops so you can adjust the hook setback as needed.
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    --my mistake just answered a question from page 1 then saw several answers on page 2
    --we have been using tube flies here for years
    --you can purchase tube fly vise or tube fly vise attatchment what will assist you in tying them.
    Last edited by platypus; 09-05-2014 at 07:02 PM.

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    You guys inspired me to give this a shot. Added a rubber bobber stop behind the tube as DLM suggested. Excited to see how these fish for me this Spring. Attachment 7716

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    Those should catch. We also had some good action on a yellow/orange fly tied that way

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    The commercially hand tied flies we use with great success on Lake Roosevelt are $5 to 6 each. No made in China stuff there. Quality hooks, great material and labor. Lets say a couple of bucks material and $3 labor. You might tie 10 to twelve an hour so that's say $35 an hour. Not too many craftsman only charging $35 an hour these days.

    Tying your own is definitely a labor of love and very satisfying; if you have the time, skills and have invested in an array of materials.

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    OOPS I chimed in on the wrong page too. Must be late.... Nice looking flies you all tied up. I'll have to give tube flies a whirl at lake Roosevelt and then this spring when the kokanee lakes heat up (ice off). Thanks for sharing. One of the neat things about this site is the willingness to share info. Makes the experiment loads of fun and reduces the food fish cost to less than a hundred bucks a pound!

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